Caitlin Johnson: Interview with Jennise James
Well, as a kid, I grew up, I had a lot of brothers and one sister, and um, the house was always
crazy because there was a lot of kids. And my mother was, um, very lenient. She was a very nice
person, worked a lot, so did my father...We did a lot of games, we played, like, manhunt, hide
and seek, a lot of little kids games... (Jennise begins to talk about her sister Charlotte) We got in
trouble a lot, cause I would follow her, everything she would do I would do, she was my older
sister. Yeah, like we snuck out the house when my mom was sleeping, yeah, and we didn't take the
slam lock off the door of our house, so we were banging on the door to get in, and she opens the
door and she's like, "How did y'all get out there?" Trying to find the story, and we're both like,
"Umm, umm"...We were so close in age (2 years 5 days) that we just did everything together.
Yeah, she was like my best friend...(My mother) worked in the post office, um, she was a post
master, yeah...(Jennise talks about her father) He was retired, cause he was in the army for 27
years, yeah...My mom wasn't (home a lot), cause she was working, but my dad was, he was home
all the time...To my dad, since I'm the last child, I was like the little baby. I would do bad things
and I would run to him and he would stop, um, them from beating me up. I'd do bad stuff and
run to my father...He was very nice and laid back. And he didn't want anyone to bother me or
my sister, cause it's 10 boys, so he would protect us all the time. We felt safe when he was
around...He made us feel so special...We would play tackle football with them (her brothers), and
they would treat us like boys, they would tackle us, too...4 (brothers) from my father's previous
marriage and 6 from my father and mother...(The happiest day of Jennise childhood was)
Christmas. I couldn't wait, cause my mother used to tell us if we didn't go to sleep Santa wouldn't
come. So we used to put the cookies and the milk out. And then me and my sister would act like
we were sleeping cause my brothers would help her carry the gifts, and then we would peek in
and we would see my brothers and they were moving the toys under the tree. Then, they would
go to sleep and there were me and my sister poking holes in the gifts...(The last time Jennise saw
her sister), it's been awhile now, six or seven years, yeah...(She lives in) Virginia...Yeah, but
hopefully I will see her soon...My sister was in this other program called Blithe Dale because she
was a juvenile diabetic. They wanted to teach her how to take care of herself, so some summers
she would be there (at summer camp with Jennise) and sometimes she'd be at Blithe Dale...I got
diabetes when I became, like, 17 years old, so I wasn't considered juvenile anymore, so...My
mother worked a lot (so in the summer) we didn't really go a lot of places unless we were going to
an amusement park...(Jennise daughter) is, like, very aggressive and demanding and I was the
same way and my mom used to be so passive like I am with her, I think that's a way that we're
alike...Me and my sister were, like, really spoiled. We always got everything we wanted, so nut I
had a whole collection of dolls and I used to line them up on the wall and play school with them.
My sister said, "Why are you talking to them?! They're not talking back to you!" And I used to
give them homework, yeah give the dolls homework and then I'd do the homework and give it
back to them and let them hand it in. I had, like, a really wild imagination when I was
younger...My mother used to do things, like, read the encyclopedias. That was a punishment, like,
when we do bad things, she would tell us to go and look in the encyclopedia, pick four words,
make a sentence, make a paragraph, and then a short story. I'm like, yeah...(Jennise was usually
punished for) fighting with my sister. We fought a lot about everything, because we had to share a
room...We used to fight. I used to push her under the bed and run. I would get in trouble for
that...By the time I was 15, I knew a lot of words, their meanings, whether they were adjectives
or verbs, yeah... A couple of years after (leaving home and coming back, Jennise was
incarcerated)...Well, I was writing checks, cashing checks from a company I was working for and,
um, I ended up doing a check for one of my friends. And she got nervous when they went to the
back to get her the money. And she left the check in the,uh, bank with her driver's license. So,
when the bank called the company to let them know that their employee left a check there, they
said they never issued the check to her in that amount. And when the feds came to her, she sent
them to me. Then, I got arrested. But I never seen her after that, so I'm thinking maybe they put
her in witness protection program or something...It wasn't a scene. The detectives just came to
my house and told me they needed me down at the precinct for questioning...Well, they (the
detectives) were pretty nice. They were asking me, was I hungry, did I need to smoke a cigarette,
something, they were nice. I guess, because they knew I wouldn't be coming out for awhile,
so...To have to stay somewhere, confined for three years is really hard...I pretty much stayed to
myself, because I put myself in trouble, so I didn't want to take my family through having to
support me while I was in jail. I wrote, but I didn't really call...They would go when I had court,
because I was fighting the case for a long time before I took the sentencing. They would be in the
courtroom...They knew what was going on, you know...It kind of made me feel like you can't
help nobody, because they'll just turn on you. And for a long time, I wouldn't help anybody...I felt
like when I went through what I was going through, the depression of being confined somewhere
for a number of years, as well as the guilt. I felt guilt of some kind, because I was taking from
someone, someone's company, and I never felt I just had to put myself in the shoes of the person
being ripped off. And I wasn't really helping her (the friend who turned Jennise into the police),
the check that I was writing was helping her, so...